troyboy
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Post by troyboy on Dec 1, 2006 12:35:45 GMT
I am a believer that Kenya can change. But i believe the change will come from an absolute change in leadership and an overhaul of the constitution.
If Raila were to be Kenya's president. I pray that he will change the constitution to what was ratified at Bomas. I also pray that he will implement all the recommendations of the various committees instituted over the years since independence.
Raila is our best bet coz the man is a radical. He is change in itself and Kenya needs a complete turn around to prosper. We cannot afford to elect loser presidents year after year after year. When will we ever have it easy as a people?
When the price of bread goes up, it does not only affect the kikuyu or the Luo. All the poor suffer equally. We as kenyan people must come together and fight for what is ours. Responsible Leadership.
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Post by blackstones on Dec 5, 2006 17:06:54 GMT
I see your point that we need change,however I am not convinced that Raila will bring change. We need to ask who has been funding Raila all along. If the West is then what we will see in Kenya through Raila will be a puppetted change by the West. There is a lot of interest from the West to re-instate new forms of colonization through media and international corporate caledestine activities of the Bushes and Blaires regime. We need leaders who have credibility and intergrity.
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Post by shykoh on Dec 6, 2006 6:22:41 GMT
You two seem to be in a world that lacks reality, i am sure that it is a foregone conclusion that Raila Odinga is the next Kenyan president. We need a revolutionary leader to shape things up in Kenya and I DO NOT THINK THAT THEY COME BETTER THAN Raila Odinga
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troyboy
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Post by troyboy on Dec 12, 2006 15:44:33 GMT
Haki ya Nani shykoh?? I live in continental Europe and should it happen by any chance that Raila or Kalonzo makes it as kenya's next president. I will go back home for a year and just enjoy basking in the ODM glory.
P/S I will be in kenya in Dec to vote.
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Post by sambaza on Dec 14, 2006 6:11:46 GMT
I hope they accept dual nationality before then coz Raila has meny voters abroad who cannot necessarily travel there to vote
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BettyBoo
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frankly my dear, I don't give a d**n .......
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Post by BettyBoo on Jul 26, 2007 21:48:30 GMT
dream on, this guy cannot now, or ever rule kenya! perish the thought yawa!
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mundia2
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Post by mundia2 on Jul 31, 2007 9:40:03 GMT
Hi Interesting it was for Sarah Elderkin, to treat Prof. Makau as ‘an onion to be peeled leaf-by-leaf in layers to nothingness. Likewise it was utterly wrong for Prof. Makau as a literary ‘carpenter to turn the ‘Odinga family tree into political tables and chairs and a leadership coffin’. What readers need is not only to believe about the sentiments that many, I included, may choose to say about Raila but for us all to experience his type of leadership that is in question. May be Odingaism is turning out to be a mutating philosophy similar to Nyerere’s Ujamaa ideology that changed lived of many and not a particular ethnic tribe.
Though Sarah Elderkin has a right to air her literary pro-Odinga sentiments she only confesses ‘indifferences and misunderstanding’ that she may be having with the Professor. Whether Mutua is seen to be tribal or not he has his own bitter-sweet altercations that may be aligned to the Odingas. I wonder why Sarah, in her piece, is so defensive and pro-Raila but with a ‘clever activism for neo-tribalism’.
Aren’t the two infecting readers with tribo-political psychosis of their own making? Why practice literary violence and counter attacks with a tribal lining? Both are wrong. They need to separate the tribal chaff from the leadership and literary grain by enlightening readers about who Raila and the Odingas are without lacing imagined tribal facets and selective political hypotheses with personal amnesia.
There is at least one thing in Raila’s life that is beyond good and evil, which is being rightly himself. For Prof. Mutua and Sarah Elderkin, there are no absolutes except those that we ourselves create as individuals.
This elitist ‘stinking-thinking’ in the name of having counter-attacks for favor is only stage-managed by our current political temperatures and has contributed to our misunderstanding Raila and the Odingas. I’m not trying to justify their ‘controversy’ or any other as some may wish to believe.
Certainly from what I have been gathering, many of us have opted to ‘talk, judge and make’ Raila for us by having personal standards that are selectively chosen as tools for displacing the other and even going to an extent of politically ‘provoking’ others with campaign platitudes on paper on how Kenyans should think, say and vote for their candidate including Raila.
What some of us do is only to create political popularity monologues as conflict and less leadership dialogue that we need most when we choose to have intercourse of mass-populist violence to prove a point that some politician is most qualified as a leader than others than to offer ideologies from their preferred candidates as an alternative that would help save Kenyan from the jaws of some selfish few.
Prof. Mutua and Sarah have literally chosen to discover tribal political standards for us by creating their personal ‘elimination’ tactics that they feel serve their interests best and at the expense of ordinary Kenyans.
The point is that to be authentic in leadership, like how Raila has chosen to be, is being honest with oneself first even in the face of nothingness and to all Kenyans no matter where one comes from. It seems that tribal and ‘attitudinal’ beliefs learnt from our historical past have refused to leave many of us including the very learned. In fact many of what we believe in politically, as we touch leadership, are pure ‘prejudices and myths’. By the way who is the ruler of our current leadership destiny that has been soiled by insecurity, poverty, human rights violations and unequal livelihoods, among many others?
Must we ‘religiously’ maintain the approval of our historical past to rule today, as if our current existence is directly depended on them? What about individuals like Raila as a presidential aspirant and his ‘different’ but logical ideological stand?
Many of us expect tribal leadership to treat us fairly, as if the same can conform to our innate ethnic wishes or what we would deem right to hear from our previous leaders and some writers to ‘make us smile more as we approach the ballot box’.
Those upset and angry with Raila, as Prof. Makau et al may be, are only expressing their own personal problems and not Agwambo’s or the Luo community. Raila never minces words when he knows he is right, ‘only meat when he may want to make some Orange political Samosa’ for his people. Many strongly believe in him because we abide by his living philosophies that touch on the common Kenyan. Though everyone is entitled to his/her opinion some have lacked respect for the Odingas. Their wish is to ‘prove’ to others how bad, dictatorial, dirty, bitter and uncircumcised some are at the expense of true leadership.
What we need is to learn to accept differences as opportunities for growth and maturity, by even accepting our leadership mistakes when we make them and not as reasons for conflicts that massage the political egos of a select few. This year should be one that makes us sanctify our historical leadership than to be overtaken by our own history. Should we not justify our leadership by some higher value than the purely intrinsic tribal and sectarian pleasure it is currently producing and in a more ‘biological’ manner?
Should blaming or cursing Raila be part of accepting political reality that is always elusive to many? To my mind reality entails accepting limits no matter how opposing they appear to be.
As a fact Prof. Mutua may want to know the answer to Raila’s urge (read problem) to be president. I tell his ilk that Raila’s urge to lead the country is first of all not a question to be solved but a leadership process to be experienced, come next year. We should thus not, as Kenyans, decide who shall vote for who, who is ‘cut’ or not or what tribe should lead others. For the fanatics, tribalism would always be static and confined inside the ethnic box while leadership and democracy changes in every generation that comes forth.
Political life is limitless and political boundaries and blocks that we create only make us to be resistant to have democratic changes. We only become more confined to the obsolete Mugithi, Sukuti or Ohangla verses of our historical leadership as 'genocide'. The Kenya that we tribally relate to is our own construction because what our leaders and writers say today may determine how our lives would be tomorrow and in future.
A practical example, Raila just like Malcolm X, et al, have been targets of mass-violence, hatred, blame and discrimination because they reminded some ‘very static’ individuals of how empty and inauthentic their political and leadership ideas are in comparison. They bring change to the world with the ‘different opinions’ that they have with them.
Certainly any genetically tribal Kenyan trying to control others’ political opinion is essentially destroying and objectifying them. Let us learn not to be primitive and to set leadership standards for others. Let us all vacate the country of tribalism and hatred even in our literary discourses. Kenya as a nation needs us most.
Lastly, Raila does not care what ‘some writers’ may literally dictate to others about him, his family and community at large, but only minds what you the voter would decide while voting come December.
Sincere Regards, Mundia Mundia Jnr.
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mundia2
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Post by mundia2 on Aug 1, 2007 14:35:22 GMT
For the past 24 year we had been ruled by former President Moi...we are all certain that he was 'cut',yaani circumcised..but what did he do for Kenyans.By the way does any foreskin know anything to do with leadership? In the German culture,men never get circumcised...or is it a coincidence that they now have an uncircumcised 'female' Prime Minister,Merkel!....
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Post by odhiambo on Aug 24, 2007 7:29:08 GMT
Great arguement. Leadership is about the content of your ability and the desirre to bring change. Raila has what it takes and everyday I get the feeling that come next year we will see something like this
His Exellency President Engineer Raila Amollo Odinga,
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